[Josem]

Reading this thread is a bizarre experience.

a) People throw out random answers, with no understanding of the issues involved.

b) Intelligent discussion about ICM and the issues involved, especially by Citanul and ChrisV and Blackize. leaponthis, while lacking an understanding of the issues, seems to be at least coherent and thinking about it.

c) More people throw out random answers, with no understanding of the issues involved.


Some idiocy highlighted:
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Unless I draw up a load of formulae and odds on a big fat post, then my point is invalid

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Yes, if you refuse to use mathematics to answer a mathematics question, your point is invalid. I would have thought this was self-evident.

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I dont see how you can say the sb "should" push. We dont know what cards he/she has, but i agree with your post in general.

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It doesn't matter what the SB has. If the button limps here, I would push 100% from the SB.

If the BB folds, the button is in a crap position.

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Also the big blind cannot fold here surely!

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It depends what happens.

If the button pushes, and the SB calls, it would be a fairly obvious fold by the BB.

The BB would be folding to a Button call/SB push because they'd hope the Button would call and be knocked out.

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3rd place doesn't pay the bills much in SnG's. Greatest EV is bet not call. IMHO

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3rd place pays the bills in SNGs much more than 4th does.

Busting out here sucks.