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Old 02-02-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: DeathDonkey is in the well

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Re: the turn & river: how often do you bluff 3bet or C/R and what are the best conditions for it (obv. villian has to know the fold button so I'm talking more about board texture I guess)? I never used to do this but have been expirmenting lately due to boredom and the influx of Tags that have migrated to Stars from Party. Is the easy answer to just stop?

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A decent time to "make a move" on the turn is when a scary card hits AND you have outs in case you get called on the turn. Blindly taking some action on the flop with the goal of stealing the pot should a scary card hit the turn is a recipe for disaster and is something I see too frequently from decent players who made a few successful bluffs in their life and now think they can win every pot.

Bad times to do it are where the board is very draw heavy and the villain will almost surely have to call your raise to try and hit his draw - for one, you'll have to fire on the end so you are risking more, and for another reason, he will miss his draw, get to the river, and now possibly make a crying call with a weak hand because the pot has gotten so big. An exception to this idea is when you have showdown value yourself, now you aren't really bluff raising, so much as free showdown raising with a weak made hand.

A good example might be, you raise TT on the button, BB defends. Flop comes Q87 with two spades and you get checkraised. You call and the turn is a red ace - a free showdown raise here might be a good idea. It's possible villain will fold a Queen, its possible he has an 8 or 7 and/or a draw of some type, all of which you beat. And if you get reraised you have a very easy fold, and every now and then you'll nail a ten on the end and can value bet.

There are definitely situations where you should be bluffing on the big streets, but always try to have outs, and try to pick good opponents who have the ability to lay down a hand.

-DeathDonkey
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