Re: Phil Ivey Gossip
Devil- I'll post a full reply later today when i am not asleep on my feet.
In short, yes we can agree the wager is a product of negotiation.
Yes, by and large people should take responsibility for a bad negotiation on their part.
No, simply being deceived shouldn't/doesn't relieve them from a burden in many instances.
There are degrees of this and it isn't a black and white issue.
I think where we have diverged is to what extent good faith has to be exercised/was exercised in the negotiations, and what if anything can alter an obligation if witheld before the wager occurs.
It sounds a bit silly to use good faith that way but even Blair admitted that some of the games are about trying to gain "some edge" and not the largest possible edge.
There are some variables here that are undisclosed at this point that may matter.
Last, before I sleep- I took a cheap shot and I shouldn't have in a previous post. My apologies.
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