[kurto]

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Hi Kurto

Should we tell criminals that they should not burglarize peoples homes because its wrong and the home owner might kill them. Then in the next breath say that if they are going to burlarize homes anyways they should wear bullet proof vests?

The Catholic Church is telling people that it is a sin to have pre-martital sex and by doing so they might also get AIDS. They have no obligation to tell people to use condoms. Kurto, your rationale is bunk.

The real issue is wether the church should be teaching that permaritial sex and the use of birth control are sins.



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2+2 really is the forum for bad analogies.

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The Catholic Church is telling people that it is a sin to have pre-martital sex and by doing so they might also get AIDS. They have no obligation to tell people to use condoms. Kurto, your rationale is bunk.


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I'm saying if the Church wants to stop the spread of AIDS (which I'm pretty certain they've said as much)... if they were really interested in results they would teach people about condoms. "Hey, we think that you should practice abstinence. But listen, AIDS will kill you. If you aren't going to listen to us about the abstinence thing... please, at the very least, wear a condom."

There have been studies done on abstinence programs and the results are almost always the same. Abstinence does not work.

If the church is concerned about the spread of AIDS, and they are aware that abstinence WHILE A NOBLE GOAL IN THEIR EYES, doesn't work, then they should teach whatever else does work.

Let's use the married man example. Let's say you know that there's a decent chance a married man is going to cheat. Even if you tell him he shouldn't, there's a good chance he will. (remember, these are different cultures which may not have the same ideas about monogamy as Western cultures) But there's a decent chance that he IS concerned about AIDS and would likely use a condom if he knew about it and it was available. If he has an affair... there is a decent chance he gets AIDS and gives it to his wife.

Now if you want to help him and his wife... is the right thing to give him as much information about what can save him and his wife or only teach abstinence?