Re: Catholics vs. Hitler
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If the catholic church wasnt in Africa would AIDS slow down?? Because one thing is the church not helping and another thing is harming. The church is simply not helping
[/ QUOTE ] Telling someone with AIDS or at risk for AIDS to not wear a condom is like telling doctors to stop giving children the vaccines for Small Pox and Polio. Not helping is hurting!
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Stem cell research is at least debatable.
[/ QUOTE ] This I gotta hear. Imagine that I'm driving a trash truck and I've just picked up a batch of in vitro discards from a fertility clinic. I'm on my way to a dumpsite and some scientists flag down my truck. They ask me if they can tinker around with my trash a little, look at stuff under microscopes, they even promise not to clone any of the embryos. They say this could potentially save or improve billions of lives. Now please give me a debatable argument as to why I should refuse that is not a complete stretch and is without the poison of religion informing your debate.
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you are completely missing the good stuff the church does
[/ QUOTE ] I admitted that they do good stuff. I just believe that you could do all the good stuff without the bad stuff that stems from bogus messages sent from an imaginary superdaddy. How about if the Catholic Church said that starting tomorrow they were just going to be an outfit that organizes good deeds. They'll meet every Sunday for 15 minutes of Oprah style inspirational messages and then spend the rest of the hour or more building homes for the poor, feeding the hungry, clothing the needy, cleaning up the community, visiting the lonely, caring for the sick, donating blood, etc. We could even sing campfire type songs as we work. Everyone would bond, help others, and feel good. Plus, any group leaders who can't keep their zippers zipped get kicked out of the club immediately. The way I see it this would provide much better results. No god required. Hell, I'd even sign up and join you arm in arm every weekend. We don't need fairy tales that spit out half good advice(love your neighbor) and half bad(being gay is a crime, don't treat your slaves too badly). We just need good people to band together. Jettison all the gibberish and I'm in! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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