Re: Catholics vs. Hitler
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The OP question is "they did the same bad thing, why dont they have the same reputation" my answer is " even thought they did the same bad thing, catholics have also done good things."
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Just becuase they did goog things doesnt make their crimes any better than what the nazis did. both brutally murdered and killed for their own ideals.
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we are now officially discussing in circles.
OK we have person A and person B.
Person A does an horrible thing.
Person B does and horrible thing but also does a good thing afterwards.
Person A is a bad person
Person B is also a bad person but not as bad as person A
Please tell me you got it.
Btw im conceding a lot of points just for the sake of the debate( im conceding that the church is a bad insitution, im comparing an insitution that have changed the people that run them to a person, im also ignoring that the insititutions made the harm hundreds of years ago)
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Well, yeah, but you're completely ignoring the possibility that the Nazis were better than the Catholic Church.
I look at it more like:
Both the church and and the Nazis killed Jews.
The church was complicit in genocide during the holocaust, but probably killed some Jews outside that period, too.
To the best of my knowledge Nazis didn't molest children.
Nazis are gone, but the Pope is still spouting [censored], and is arguably responsible for a great deal of AIDs deaths in Africa, generations of ignorance, misogynistic behavior, the spread of the genes of less intelligent catholics, and frankly, the latest pope is a bit of a prick.
Hitler, on the other hand, pulled America out of the great depression, gave us a sense of honor, advanced nuclear science and aerodynamics, and gave us the greatest rhetorical device of all time ("yeah, that's what the NAZIS would say!!").
Frankly, I don't see how it's even close.
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