[willie24]

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This is a terrible analysis. You're completely ignoring calling frequency. We need to max our expected gain here, not our max gain when he does call. Just because he "occasionally" calls with a dominated hand when we have AA doesn't make pushing the right move. Based on your thinking, why don't we push AA everytime we are dealt it in a 1000BB deep cash game?

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i'm not ignoring calling frequency. i'm not saying that pushing AA is always right, or usually right, or anything like that. I'm saying that pushing KK or AA/AK (less often) is reasonable sometimes. that is, in the right situation it can be +cEV or only slightly -cEV compared to reraising a normal amount. metagame issues and lowered variance (which is +EV in a tournament) can turn it into a play worth doing some % of the time.

a main point was that a push gets called by hands like QQ, and more importantly AK and JJ and even worse (which you can stack postflop less often) ... often enough that your likelihood of being called is not as low as you think. for evidence that this is true, look at this thread. everyone puts you on TT or AK (because you supposedly dont know how to play postflop.)

also, when you reraise a normal amount you give away your hand anyway. your opponents are almost as likely to fold to a regular RR as they are to a push.