Re: It\'s about time we had this discussion
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Isn't the general idea:
SCs: we want more people in the hand so if we hit a strong (conceiled) hand, there's bound to be someone to pay us off
AA: we want less people to decrease the risk of getting sucked out on.
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no.
With AA, we want more callers, as then we get more $$ in when we have the best hand and we also have much higher chance of some1 flopping a 2nd best hand.
With SCs, we cant play the hand on the value of the hand alone, we need FE most the time, so the less callers the better
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So if you raise AA and you get 4 callers you think that's a good thing? I really have to disagree. With SC I can somewhat agree.. I think there are two sides to look at it: 1. multiway pot for implied odds to hit big (what I said), or 2. few callers for good FE.
Take the following scenario: There's a FFR and two callers before you. You have 1) AA, 2) 56s. What do you do? I think the answer is an obvious: 3bet with AA to cut their odds to suck out on you (even though you get less people to see the flop) and with 56s you call behind to see if you can hit big.
Thoughts?
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If I raise AA preflop and get 4 callers, I'm very happy. Sure, I'll lose the pot a lot more often, but my +EV will improve in the long run, which i think is the point you are missing.
Again, when we 3bet AA, its not so much to cut down other people's odds, its to get value for our hand. If I 3bet AA preflop...I want as many people to call me as possible!
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