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Watch Thank You For Smoking. There's a pretty sweet scene where the main character teaches his son how to debate.

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Agreed the key to winning an arguement is about making the arguement about something you know you can win, not about the actual issue... think about how chicks argue sometime.

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Im not understanding this? what do you mean, just argue the things you know you are right about? Chicks when tehy argue, usualyl make no sense, so Im a little confused.

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The basic idea of the scene is the main character is eating ice cream with his son and they're talking about what's better, chocolate or vanilla. The kid likes chocolate and the dad decides to teach him how to debate. The kid starts and proclaims his love for chocolate saying something like "chocolate is all i need!" The dad then takes a more moderate road saying that he believes people need variety blah blah blah. In short, he argues against chocolate being all people need rather than arguing for vanilla being the best. If you prove the other person wrong you can win by default.

Similar to political campaigning. Regardless of your stance on things, in a 2 candidate race, whoever can get closer to the middle in the voters minds will win.

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I dont consider that winning the argument, yes, if you are running for political office, thats the best way to go. But if chocolate is my favorite flavor, it is my opinion, of what I like. I like chocolate, it is the best flavor of all ice cream, just because everyone else doesnt necassarily think its the best, doesnt mean that Im not right in saying chocolate is my fav. The kid is arguing that chocolate is all HE needs, the dad is completely changing the argument, saying its not all EVERYONE needs, he isnt arguing the topic.