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Old 01-26-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: Hand retrieved from muck at Binions - bad ruling?

I see no reason at all for this discussion between the floor and the player to have been done in secret since you were all-in. The player should have announced outloud to everybody "I had two black nines" (or whatever).

I'd place a small wager that the guy with 99 is something of a regular and got treated a little better than a run-of-the-mill off-the-street patron would. In my too many hours of B&M daily tourney play I've never ever seen a floor person go through the whole muck to retrieve two cards. I have seen it when the victim could state "I had two kings and I can point at which two cards they are" (and yeah, he pointed at two face-down kings among a jumble of 4 or 6 cards). I agree with Rick's thoughts that it's just not ok in this situation to paw through the whole muck. I have seen the floor give back the victim's last bet, and sometimes all of their bets from the current betting round as a remedy.

No, don't much like this ruling.
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