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Old 01-25-2007, 08:50 PM
aislephive aislephive is offline
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Default Re: It\'s about time we had this discussion

Goofy, this isn't a catholic high school. People really need to calm down and stop trying to enforce people being "kind" to one another. I haven't even attacked anybody and people are acting like I just killed Jesus. There are rules you must follow on 2p2, and I haven't broken any of them. Get off my case already.

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Ok, so when stacks are 500bbs deep you should be open raising to 20xbb? Do you realize how retarded that is? Risking 20bbs to win 1.5? Also, rarely will everybody be 200bbs deep. If you have two guys other than yourself 200bbs deep, and two other guys with < 100 bbs then your strategy is not only unreasonable but is very exploitable, particularly if say somebody at the table has 50bbs and can play perfectly against you.

There was a thread in msnl debating whether stack sizes or blinds dictated raise sizes. In reality they both do to a degree but blinds are more significant.

Also wtf raising to 4x with 200bb stacks is not the same thing as minraising in a 100bb stack game. That is beyond retarded. Just because the default buyin for an online NL cash game is 100bbs doesn't mean the goal is to always have everything in relation to it at all times. That's the biggest BS I've ever heard.

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AP, pretty obviously, the deeper every1 is, the bigger your preflop raise should be, they shouldn't be in a 1 to 1 ration for sure, but to say that if every1 is 500BBs deep that a 4xBB+1 open is optimal is IMO pretty wrong

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Yes I do agree that there is some consideration to that, but it applies way more to deep stacked live games because 1. Your average player has a much narrower range when open raising than a 6 max online player would and 2. Everybody has deeper stacks generally. In 6 max NL online games where the games are CAPPED at 100bbs, I see no reason to start making ridiculously large raises because a few others are deep as well. The beauty of being deep is to be able to make a lot of small investments that could pay off big, ESPECIALLY against fish.
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