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Old 01-25-2007, 04:46 PM
Minnie Man Minnie Man is offline
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Default Re: It\'s about time we had this discussion

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I mix it up a little, too. it's also really dependent on stack sizes and villains.

if you know villains will cal 7BB w/ their marginal hands that makes more sense than raising to 4. And if we have 200BB stacks raising to 4BB w/ your AA is begging him to play 2 cards and stack us, IMO.

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Soooo wrong.

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disagree. care to elaborate? the 4BB 'rule' is with the assumption that we have standard 100BB stacks. With deeper stacks we can certainly (and certainly should, IMO) change the size of our pfr. I'd be interested in hearing WHY we shouldn't.

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For starters, because our range is MUCH wider than AA when we raise preflop. Also you really shouldn't be going broke with AA in a raised pot with 200bb stacks unimproved anyways.

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Well a couple things since it seems like you're missing the point. 1. this isn't something i would do only w/ AA. 2. OBV I dont want to get stacked for 200BB w/ one pair hand and with 200BB or more in our stacks that is going to happen OR we're going to have to give villain credit for a better hand and fold often. 3. my main point is that raising 4bb @ 100nl when we have 200BB effective stacks is ESSENTIALLY the same thing as min-raising in 200nl, and we don't do that.

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I agree. The deeper the stacks, the bigger the PF raises have to be. If everyone had a 2983BB stack, it doesn't make sense to raise 4BB PF.
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