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i just treat them like normal raises (that provide you with different pot odds, obviously). i don't think they "mean" anything; in other words, the average minraising villain is neither stronger nor weaker than the average raising villain in my opinion. here are two from today:
Full Tilt Poker
$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
5 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter
<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BTN: $97.50
SB: $191.95
BB: $94.35
UTG: $73
Hero (MP): $196.80
<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
($3, 5 players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $7,
SB folds,
BB folds
<font color="black">Flop:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
($17, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $13</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $26</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all in to $189.80</font>, BTN calls all in for $64.50
Uncalled bet of $99.30 returned to Hero
<font color="black">Turn:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
($198, 2 players)
No action
<font color="black">River:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
($198, 2 players)
No action
<font color="black">Results:</font>
BTN had 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Nines and Twos)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a full house, Queens full of Twos) and won $195
Final Pot: $195.00 ($3.00 rake)
Full Tilt Poker
$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter
<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $199.2
BB: $294.35
Hero (UTG): $321.40
MP: $230.05
CO: $178.35
BTN: $328.60
<font color="black">Preflop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
($3, 6 players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>,
MP folds, CO calls $7,
BTN folds,
SB folds, BB calls $5
<font color="black">Flop:</font> 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
($22, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $34</font>,
BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all in to $314.40</font>, CO calls all in for $137.35
Uncalled bet of $143.05 returned to Hero
<font color="black">Turn:</font> 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
($364.7, 2 players)
No action
<font color="black">River:</font> 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
($364.7, 2 players)
No action
<font color="black">Results:</font>
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Jacks) and won $361.70
CO had 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Sevens)
Final Pot: $361.70 ($3.00 rake)
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ok tannen, you posted hands where you have overpairs, how about a tough hand where you hold QQ and flop is A J 8 with 2 diamonds. call raise fold???
i usually peel one here and fold to aggression on hte turn. its so easily exploitable though. my hand is basically face up. and of course when i flop an ace or soemthing a c-bet takes it down.
damn the downsizings