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Now M as HOH defines it is clearly not meant for this sort of game, so let's go to a slightly less extreme example, where blinds go up every orbit, but you start with an M of 30. I think it's clear that here limping 44 on the button would be a terrible idea, since even though you are currently in the green zone every blind is precious. So it seems that tournament speed does influence this less extreme example. And this example, while extreme, isn't that far off some turbos.

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that's something i wrestle with.... you have the implied odds as you mentioned, but i don't agree with the precious chips argument. when the blinds have gone up 4 or 8 times in short order, it won't matter that you limped when the blinds were really small. and if the blinds move up really fast, you'll be going all-in on some very dicey situation. so you may as well have used a very small amount of chips to try to hit a set. i differentiate drawing to set and drawing to flush/straight. the latter can use up huge amounts of chips (hopefully i didn't misread your comment, you might have meant flush/straight).

for certain, alot of people in this thread initially totally missed the fact that your M can be dynamic where you have to be pretty open to all-in opportunities. which is pretty much the entire point of arnold's book.

one thing i don't think is made clear enough is that faster the M, the more the crazy plays are correct. if blinds go up every hand, opening all-in with 55 or KTo in mid-position looks good (not sure if that's within arnold's more aggressive advice)