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here are some of my own numbers, which may give a sort of picture.

PSAT, forgot the number but I got the scholarship, but I was in the lower range for the scholarship.

SAT 10th grade. 660 V, 700 M.
SAT 12th grade. 690 V, 760 M.

in college decided to start reading novels with a dictionary and look up every word I didn't know.

GRE 800 V (99%), 780 M (93%), 720 A (92%).
Studied either minimally or not at all (cocky, lazy and foolish). Ran out of time on analytic. Analytic, when they still had it on GRE, is same as logic games on LSAT.

GMAT 760 (99%). (48 Quant (96%), 47 Verbal (99%)).

LSAT 167 (can't find percent).
I studied with a bad book. I knew to prepare for the logic games. After a couple days I killed all the ones in this book. In the actual test the problems were much much harder. I got stuck cold on the first one. I would have cancelled but I had no time to retake.

GRE (again) 790 V (99%), 790 M (91%).

So I do well at tests generally, if not quite stunningly. I can do all the math with time, but get stuck under pressure sometimes. Conclusion: Logic games you need to practice/ learn them, and need to be sure to practice hard ones. I did worse on the LSAT than on anything else b/c I didn't prepare. (And I generally didn't prepare much for any other tests either.)

PS No, I didn't go to school all these times. I considered and decided not to more than once.

On another note, I spent a semester at a top 5 law school and took the hardest classes there by consensus (while going to a lower level school on a scholarship). I was mildly surprised (okay, not really) that for all the 175-180 LSATs that were in my classes with me, almost none of them exhibited any sort of exceptional analytical or logical abilities when analyzing a complex argument or parsing a statute. Throw out an answer like "'if' here means necessary but not sufficient" and they look at you like you're Martian. Something like diagramming the rule in International Shoe (2X2 matrix) takes a week for them to figure out. Does the LSAT really mean nothing at all? Or does it distinguish the really-not-so-impressive from the truly stupid?