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Old 02-11-2006, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: Coming Full Circle Back to the KQ7

Edit: I just did a better job of reading David's post and see that he acknowledged the differences between the new hand and the original hand. I still think the compaing the two could be useful. As to the new hand, my comments below still hold. I don't think David understands the range of hands we can expect to be called by/raised by if we lead this flop, especially if we are frequent flop bettors.



God, I am such a nit. But, once again, the hand was three-handed. This makes a difference, I believe, because initial bet is less likely to be viewed as strong (a bet into two people, not three), and therefore it is more likely that the original raiser will raise the lead.

Since we are getting heavy into theory anyway, I am curious how much difference David sees between the three-way and four-way situations and if the fact that the orignal hand was three-way changes his position.

Generally, I think David's perception of how the lead will be viewed is off. At least in the games I play (mid-limit NL and tournaments), most of the time the people in the middle are calling the flop with a queen and the preflop raiser is raising with a king or better. Also, KQ7 two spades has plenty of draws that we don't want to see the turn for free.

The original post:

"5-10 NL at the Borgata in Atlantic City.

My image is solid, as I have shown down all the big ones, and gotten away with some timely moves.

I am in SB and dealt 7c7s. I have ~1600. Two limpers to an aggressive tricky player in the cutoff who makes it 50. This player has shown down a wide variety of hands, and is capable of raising late with any two. He has ~2200 in chips. One of the limpers(tight solid older man) calls, and we are three to the flop.

The flop is Ks, Qs, 7d.


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