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And I still haven't gotten a resonable opinion as to why I was called in the second situation, other than I played the hand badly, yet I was able to get all the money in as a substaintial favorite post flop, go figure.
You think villian put me on a stone bluff ?

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Naw. They never fold AK.

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Pot is 1300, J89 flop, non suited in red, I push all in for 4400.

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And then there was the miracle outside cahce that a worse hand would call for whatever reason, such as an underpair or AK, as was the case.

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other than I played the hand badly, yet I was able to get all the money in as a substaintial favorite post flop, go figure.

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Do you see the inherent flaw in your thought processes there? Posters here don't flame you because you smell funny, they flame you because you made a mistake that's glaringly obvious to more than one of them.

And when that happens 'round these parts, which side do you think generally is correct here?

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Ok, I orginally started this thread here as to why I was called in these situations. Case #1 is pretty much a gimmie, closed.
Case #2, I recieved very few responses, if any, to the original question.
But now, I would like to go off on this tanget and premise that I played the hand badly.
Basic poker theory states that one should strive to play close to the center as possible, while trying to induce your opponents to playing as far from center as possible. In otherwords, get your money in as a favorite while trying to get the other guy to call when he's a dog.
This was accomplished here and I guess I should end this thread here and now since in reality, I shouldn't be complaining, other than about the end result.
But now, I'd like to pose a second question as to why , in detail, these hands were played badly, other than fold QJ and JT suited preflop. Which I stated my reasons why I went with the hands.