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I've actually heard that MSFT pays better than google right now (have you heard otherwise?). Although I have to admit, google's campus looks like a vacation resort and makes microsoft's look like a retirement home. Also, I'm in a pretty interesting department (TV Web Services), and not in the boring Office/Vista/whatever.

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Oh snap, you didn't say that is where you were! Tell Allen Y. Lance says hi, he'll remember me for sure lol. If you haven't talked to him, go introduce yourself - Allen is actually one of the best guys at MSFT you could possibly work for, so if you're looking at being in his group, that does make MSFT more attractive.

Not certain on the Google pay but right this second, I'd rather have a handful of Google options than a handful of MSFT options. A MSFT job may actually be lower stress and less competitive than Google now - MSFT is actually loosing some decent talent to Google. From articles I've read about Google, it's a pressure cooker environment - but it sounds like you might thrive on that anyway. That is the way MSFT was some time ago and parts of MSFT are still that way, at Google I think the whole place is that way. IPTV may still be that way and like I said, Allen is a GREAT guy to work for.

Neither company will be going out of business any time soon and both are great places to work, having to make choices like MSFT, Google or trading is a great problem to have. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]