Re: Collusion in poker - can it actually acomplish anything?
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Ok this one is was not online but it surely was true and allegedly semi-unintentional.
Player A and B agreed beforehand to split winnings should either win -- that in and of itself is probably cheating in my opinion
30 person tourny
200 buyin
payout to 4
5 people left
Player A chip dumps to Player B because he is 'tired' -- clearly a despicable and collusive act.
Since Player A and B were not short stacked in this situation -- Player B is now a monster and wins the entire tourny...
That's cheating and I'll bet you it has happened many many times.
Now online -- you can't really pull this off as easily since the sites are actively looking for similar IP address originations and the same players landing in the same games repeatedly -- but again I bet it has and does happen...
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Now hold on - it's not at all clear that one player with 2x chips has a higher tourney EV than 2 players with 1x chips. In fact, the conventional valuation of chips in a tournament says that the exact opposite is true (ie. chips on the bottom of the stack are more valuable than those on top). It strikes me that perhaps you're complaining about results rather than expectations.
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Although I agree with your valuation evaluation [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] winning the whole tourny wasn't my point. With only 1 bubble and three winners -- the chip dump placed person B in the money thus the conclusion of the collusion.
However -- having agreed with your valuation evaluation -- I'd still much rather have the largest stack on the table against two stacks half my size in this situation -- any day of the week regardless of EVBVMEVEE [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
Heh -- I took second so I was just fine by the way [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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