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As someone who has done a little "time" for a non-violent/non-victim/non-dishonesty/non-pervert related technical offense, I can tell you the perspectives of people inside (including the 'dedicated career criminal' types) about the DP are far, far different than those who pontificate about it from ivory towers.

Everyone really should do a little time in prison if they are given the opportunity. It will change your outlook on life in such a way that is so fundamental, it cannot be explained. It wakes you up to certain things, it dispels many lies and grants you an understanding into the human animal that cannot be taught anywhere else.

If I had to assemble a 9 man poker team from math majors at the local university or high-IQ prison inmates, I'd choose the inmates every time.

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dude. Did you just go from pontificating about the futility of proving false negatives to, "...and its a cell block 4 thing, you wouldn't understand."

here's the thing. Noone is saying that the fact that the per capita murder rate HASN'T dropped in any the states that started the DP again PROVES that the DP fails as a deterrent.

There's nothing to support that it is a deterrent is more the issue.