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Old 12-24-2006, 05:52 PM
Martin Aigner Martin Aigner is offline
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If Italy is the best you can come up with to counter that opinion, then your argument is lost.


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I see no future in a protracted debate with you on this topic, but I think you are confused. The most objective measure of corruption is probably Transparency International's CPI, which assigns Italy a dismal score. For specific numbers related to the judiciary, the best source is probably Global Integrity who assign Italy's judiciary a score of 69, which is absolutely terrible. Accusations and even convictions relating to judicial bribery remain fairly common. Recently, a former defense minister was convicted of bribing multiple judges in Rome.


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Hm, maybe my english is too weak to fully understand that site, but give me the choice and IŽll take a trial in a german court over an american any day, although according to that site Germany scores only 79 vs USA 94.

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39 Can citizens access the judicial system?
- 39a: In practice, citizens earning the median yearly income can afford to bring a legal suit.
Score: often/0.75
Comments: According to the U.S. Census, median household income was $42,228 in 2001. It is hard to say how much citizens with that income could afford, but even postulating that they could afford to spend roughly one-tenth of that income, or $4,223, we need to acknowledge that legal fees vary greatly, depending on the quality of legal services and on the amount of legal work involved. Moreover, some lawyers agree to work on a contingency basis such that their fees are contingent on winning the suit. Some law firms offer pro bono services to indigent citizens, and some nonprofit organizations offer legal services at a reduced rate or free of charge.
References: http://www.census.gov/prod/2002pubs/p60-218.pdf

- 39b: In practice, a typical small retail business can afford to bring a legal suit.
Score: rarely/0.25
Comments: Legal fees vary greatly, depending on the quality of legal services and the amount of legal work involved, but are generally prohibitive for a typical small business. Pro bono and nonprofit legal assistance, moreover, is usually available for individuals and not businesses.
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WouldnŽt it be one of the basic principals of fair juristication be that ANYBODY has in practice the possibility to go to (and win at) court?
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