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Old 02-08-2006, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: Hand against DeathDonkey

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he either has us destroyed, or he just made a hideous river bet.

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I don't want to give any results yet as its a good thread IMO, but these can't both be true Bob. If it's so obvious Entity is destroyed here, then it's the perfect time for a bluff. Just reading this thread a bluff can't possibly be hideous since nobody thinks I could bluff there.

-DeathDonkey

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I don't necessarily agree that a bluff is not an awful idea for you.

Even though Ent is the SB here, I believe with the BB read that his defending range is pretty huge here, especially since Ent is (and knows that he is) a good postflop player. This board is very likely to hit Ent's range of hands (mid suited connectors, maybe stuff like T9o or similar), and I'd assume that he'd 3bet his premium hands, so from DD's perspective those should be discounted somewhat (I doubt Ent would miss value preflop with AK/AQ/JJ-AA etc since you said DD's opening range is pretty large, but two good players who know each other is always weird/tricky). I'd say Ent's play from your perspective is consistent a small pair -- possibly bottom pair (I dunno if hes liberal enough to defend with 65s) but probably 66/77/87 or a semibluff that missed the draw. Thus, your river bet would put you in a situation where he'll call if hes ahead and fold if hes behind.

Ent might also play T8 or something similar -- assuming that he doesn't think you'd call his river bet with A high and therefore you had him owned the whole time with TT-AA or whatever.

Basically its a situation where Ent thinks "If I bet and he calls, I lose" and DD thinks "If I bet and he calls, I lose" so neither of you bet unless you are sure you are ahead.

EDIT: Its 4:30am, I'm probably going to wake up and realize nothing I said makes any sense, but hopefully somebody gets the gist of what I'm saying (or tells me I'm retarded).
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