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Old 12-14-2006, 05:48 PM
kdotsky kdotsky is offline
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Default Re: New Fight Question

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No, there's hard evidence that hand to hand combat is an efficent market and unsecessfull skill sets will die out fairly quickly.


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Are you kidding? Are you seriously not being a troll? Martial arts aren't used for fighting most of the time. The best marketed ones and best looking (movies) ones have survived. Boxing hasn't survived because it works in fights, it's survived because people like to watch it and that's worth a lot of money. Money drives the efficient market genius, not fighting ability.

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All of the efficent disciplines will be roughtly equivlent. It's rediculous to say that Jujitsu will have a large advantage over Akido or whatever other efficent skillset you want to name.

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This comment is just embarrassing for you. It doesn't even justify a response. Go be a Ninja then.

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Also technique is clearly the least important thing when compared to physical attributes. This is why weight classes exist. Were it true that technique was more important there would be no need for them.

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Listen carefully. In boxing, everyone uses the same techniques. In UFC, everyone uses the same techniques. When that happens, size, athleticism, etc become more important, and weight classes are created. The first 4 UFC didn't have weight classes and virtually no rules. One technique from a small, unathletic guy dominated.


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The stronger, faster, better conditioned person is much more likely to win than the more profficent person.

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If they're using the same techniques, yes.



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The idea that a world class boxer with world class reflexes is somehow going to stand there and be tackled is preposterous.

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Pure ignorance. Michael Jordan would get taken down in less than 5 seconds by a high school wrestler, and I'd say he's a pretty good athlete. He sure was good at baseball too, huh?

What happens to boxing if you don't allow torso strikes. The stance, footwork, defense... everything changes. What happens when you instead allow kicks, takedowns, chokeholds, etc. It's not boxing. He has no idea, and has never trained, to defend a takedown. Oh and here's a hint: you can't do it with punches anyway.

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Your argument essentially says this: The best UFC fighters can learn extremely complex fighting skills, equally complex to learning to box, and have equal physical charactersitcs to world class boxers, but *just weren't good at boxing*.

Is that really your argument? They have all the tools to succeed in boxing, reflexes, endurance, stregnth, but they just for some reason couldn't figure out a right cross so they decided to make vastly less money, and take far more physical damage.

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Really?

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Not at all. You fail to understand on many levels. If you can't understand what I'm saying, it's hopeless to argue.
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