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Stand up martial artists dont do well because they dont get to strike and their moves dont end fights quickly, I specifically am not speaking of that style of martial arts but the less well known asian arts in the softer schools. Soft forms concentrate on ending encounters quickly either by incapacitating or disabling an opponent, usually without serious injury, this is why they are more effective than hard forms because they end encounters fast. If you are observant you'll notice that Gracie did well precisely because he concentrated on fight ending moves such as locks. The best in the world can probably out technique any MMA grappler.

I suspect an average MMA fighter can take down an average martial artist all day long but we are speaking best here not average. For the record you clearly are a fanboy [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].