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Old 12-07-2006, 11:28 AM
John Kilduff John Kilduff is offline
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Default Re: The Answer

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UFC is the closest you can have to a fight to the death

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Closer than unprotected Asian Muay Thai, where bones are frequently broken?

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Yes, because the fight can't go to the ground Muay Thai. That's a gigantic gap between the sport and a real fight.

BTW, Muay Thai is one of the practical martial arts. It what most UFC train in for their stand up fighting. But again the ground game is most important.

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Guess this is a matter of opinion, but it just seems to me that bones being broken is closer to a death match than ground-based submission holds which cause no real harm because of the tapping out rule.

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...what do you think would happen if there were no tap out rule?

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Obviously;-) But sometimes the chokee gets away, too.

In case you missed it, I outlined earlier in these threads that I have spent literally many dozens of hours striving against chokes and applying chokes in competitions (those hours total spent doing *that* specific activity; many more hours if we're talking total hours in competitions). But having the tap-out rule means you are in no real danger from submission holds.

You *are* in real danger if you are competing in Muay Thai in some Asian countries with no protective gear. As my Laotian friend put it (he is an ex-pro Asian Muay Thai-er) "If they are weak, you can hear it when their bones break." Having your ribs broken by someone's knee, or your face smashed in by someone's elbow, is to my way of thinking much more brutal and dangerous than playing a game you can just tap-out of, like we used to tap out of chokes in sport judo. To me, being under real danger of having your bones broken is much closer to a death match than playing a game where you can escape serious injury just by crying "uncle". That's why I think Asian Muay Thai is closer to a death match than UFC, but some may disagree and I guess that's just a matter of opinion.
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