[Jake (The Snake)]

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Man, I really don't like this.

I don't mind the play so much; I just don't like it out of the BB. You're going to have a really hard time figuring out what to do after the flop since you have conflicting goals of wanting to get to showdown and wanting to bet at your opponents. Even in this circumstance, A8o isn't all that good of a hand and I think you'll have a hard time making it pay off out of position.

Given your reads, I shouldn't take long to get a chance to make this play in the CO or button. Even with the extra sb cost, I think you're going to have a better EV with position - acting after your opponents will give you a much better idea which of your two goals to chase.

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Agreed completely. One of the main strengths of your Ace-high here against a maniac is its showdown value without improvement. Being out of position against two players means you are going to realize a very small percentage of that equity.