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Loose and bad villains are not the ones to try this against, since they will not lay down 88, or whatever.

Another reason this is bad is that you're turning a decent hand into a total bluff.

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we beat 88 loollllllllllllllllllll and, he is bluffing lol

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Ok, bad example, but I think the point stands. And I know he's bluffing--I'm saying I don't think he should be, obviously.

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our hand beats nothing, there is like 100x more bluff equity than showdown value.

I think that the flop is a good spot to bluff if villain isn't loose. I don't really condoan either street tbh.

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