Re: Was Hachem being unethical?
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For the purposes of this discussion, I ask that everyone assume that Hachem actually wanted Watkinson to fold and was telling the truth with his statements and that Lee Watkinson actually had QQ and believed Hachem.
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You're asking us to assume something that many of us won't agree to assume. The original topic is, "was Hachem being unethical". By asking us to make these assumptions the topic is now, "in this hypothetical situation with these arguable assumptions, would this behavior be unethical"?
The answer to the original topic is a clear "no" for me. I believe that Hachem was trying to induce a call. I think that your read was "so certain" because you're not giving these players enough credit for their acting ability.
If I'm wrong and you're right about the read , the answer regarding ethics is still "no". Unless we can prove that they had some sort of agreement before the tournament to honestly reveal to each other when they are strong, I'd have to believe that Hachem didn't want to gamble here as opposed to wanting Watkinson to fold.
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