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Old 11-23-2005, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: Was Hachem being unethical?

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Watkinson had over 100k.
If what Hachem did is ok then it's ok for me to tell a friend who is sitting at my table to fold when I have them beat and I know I have them beat and they know I wouldn't lie to them. The whole table can here me thats fine, my friend will still be able to lay down his QQ to my KK, which drastically hurts the EV of the other players at the table because a player who was supposed to go broke and move them up the prize pool didn't.

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OK. Here's my problem.

There are certain spots where friends who discuss strategy can put their friend-opponents on specific hands that are 100% certain, only because of their prior strategy discussions. Perhaps Hachem and Lee discussed the night before when talking strategy - "Minh Ly will call anything once he is in BB at 50k or less, so I will 100% push ONLY with KK and AA in that spot" (please completely disregard strategic correctness of that). Now, this situation arises, Hachem pushes. Without a word, Lee now KNOWS his QQ is no good.

This of course is a very contrived scenario, but I think you can understand what I'm getting at. Regular opponents know more about how each other play than unknown opponents. Friends who discuss strategy know more about how each other play than regular opponents.

In the situation that you described, I'm much more worried about a guy like Hachem giving Lee (I have no idea if they know each other or whatever) a subtle nod to keep him from going broke as opposed to making these types of comments that everyone at the table is equally able to benefit from (specifically, Minh can make a big laydown if he also believes Hachem).
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