[Phil153]

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Can we please get this thread split in two. The intention was to discuss the bot situation on Party whereas the topic now seems to have changed to the merits of cheating/botting in general.

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I agree. Ray Bornert is a nutcase who's using this as a platform to promote his products and insane worldview. He lost his marbles some time ago and now gets high on the thought of his bot network taking over the online world. He's quite a sick individual, and I don't know why he should be allowed here, promoting his site and spreading a very one sided perspective of online poker. He has no interest in discussion, as he's made his mind up about what's ethical, what's possible, and what sites should and will eventually do (openly allow collusion and bots). Even though those beliefs and hopes have no grounding in reality.

His frustration that things aren't the way he wants proves most of his assertions wrong. The solution to the bot problem is vigilance (such as the OP), aggressive detection methods, and not giving fruits like Mr. Bornert any chance to promote their products. I'm sure he's gotten some signups already to his shady site as a result of his postings here.