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I see now that what I was concentrating on was the interesting fact that the existence of future bets would help the jacks in limit (because it can knock out six outs on either the flop or the turn) but against most players those future bets would hurt the jacks and help the ace-queen suited in no limit (because of the increased implied odds).

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Thanks for the reply, Mason.

And I hope you see now that having money still left behind actually widens the gap between JJ and AQs in this scenario.

Your OP implied that the players at that table did not seem to understand the concept that having money behind could make a difference. But we can't assume that, since their confusion might have been due to their understanding that JJ benefits. You were there, so perhaps you have good read on what they were really thinking.

I wish the discussion in this thread had turned in a different direction.

Sorry for posting here, I play small stakes.