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this is wrong!!!

you are saying that if your opponent is drawing dead even, then that you should not give them the odds to call.

[/ QUOTE ] If they are drawing dead, then you can't possibly give them the proper odds. A bet of 10 chips is +cEV for you. The only correct action for them is to fold to any bet.

Definition:
"Giving your opponent the odds to call." = Making a bet so that your opponent's pot odds are greater than his hand odds.

I think this is a debate about semantics. I know that you know what odds are, and all of that.

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wrong again. HIS odds are the odds that he will be able to make a hand that will win. HE DOES NOT KNOW YOUR HAND.

Lets say you have JJ and flop is JJTr. You will gladly give your opponent odds to draw to his straight with a KQ or even quads if he has TT. Based on your betting he is getting odds to call a given bet based on his ASSUMPTION that the hand he is drawing to will be a winning hand.