[mike l.]

"go ahead and fold on every Jackless flop even if the situation then begs for a call. Doing that will be a smaller error than folding preflop."

that's debatable! and an interesting debate. name some flops and let's talk about their relative worth.

"Heck, you could probably tell yourself that you will fold even if the flop comes KJx or AJx and still be better off than folding preflop."

i disagree. that just sounds silly.

one thing i was talking about with gabe: in the 1-2 game, while it is a very good game, the players in general are less prone to making serious errors postflop than they would be in a 20 or 40 game. so your earn with your good hands postflop is less and your loss with your second bests is more. so ill lose more drawing on a A72 flop w/ three of my suit than i would in a 20-40 game and might win less if i flop a set because it will become apparent earlier to more savvy players. also having the player behind me still to act on each street he's still in can really cause RIO problem for flop where im forced to draw due to pot size but am going to have to pay a lot. with iffy outs.