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I also find it funny that the first time I've seen this part of TOP dismissed so easily is on the SSNL board.

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I didnt want to be the first to say it, but, yeah.

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Are people really dismissing it in this thread?


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Note in my next post, my trepidation to even mention it. Also, it wasn't that they were questioning it, its that as someone who is pretty new to poker (like me), I first think, "ok I'm probably missing something" before jumping to I think the FTOP is missing something. I would have phrased it as "How does this justify bluffing? I can't see it." Maybe thats just me.

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In general, the FTOP is a good rule to start from. I'm just saying that there are times when our opponents are SO bad that seeing our cards would not help them on a particular play.


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This is certainly true in some situations, but I think even against the biggest donk, you would be in pretty bad shape if they could see your cards and they couldn't see theirs.

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Let me raise a different, but related thought: preflop reraises. In considering the FTOP, I've concluded that I need to either reraise preflop MORE often or LESS often. Currently, I only make this play 1% of the time or so. Usually, my reraise means I've got AA-JJ, and sometimes I'll even smooth-call with those. Occasionally, I'll reraise with a weaker hand if the original raiser has a wide range and I know he is capable of folding, either to this bet or a continuation bet. Unfortunately, I don't pull that trigger often enough. As a result, my preflop reraises reveal a tremendous amount about my hands, which allows my opponents to play much closer to the FTOP optimum.

How should I mix up my preflop reraise play in order to encourage my opponents to make more FTOP mistakes? What sorts of hands should I preflop reraise? What sorts of table conditions are important? What sorts of issues should I consider?

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I think this is a very good point, and I think most of us are pretty guilty of this. I think in Super System, Doyle recommends playing AK like AA-KK mostly as a randomizing agent in these cases. If your opponent is the weak-tight, I like re-raising with suited connectors too. Remember, its expensive, but you only need to get caught once for people not to trust your re-raises (and maybe not even once if you show your hand when they lay down).