[mikechops]

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I also find it funny that the first time I've seen this part of TOP dismissed so easily is on the SSNL board.

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I didnt want to be the first to say it, but, yeah.

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I took that out and put it back in 5 times, because I wasn't sure if I wanted to even open that can of worms. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I am not sure I want to open it again either [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

What I have found most helpful on these boards, is the kind of hand analysis, that goes over an opponent's range of possible holdings and comes up with a fold/call/bet/push decision. "80% of the time he has an overpair -puuuush" or "he has TPTK too often to fold". That is the kind of thinking that is basic to playing good poker.

By contrast, I find the FTOP an attempt to state in pseudo-mathematical terms what poker is about. If you start trying to apply it to specific hands, it doesn't really get you anywhere.

You need to consider ranges of hands and ranges of possible reactions to play optimal poker.