[Bogglor]

Well, a couple of things. He's not really the DERB of the 10/20 stud8 game. He mostly plays a conventional game, but definitely mixes it up with some hands that most here would pitch in a second. Very few of the things he does would be considered maniacal or even donkish. Most players in that thread do not believe that DERB actually plays "well" by 2+2 standards; you couldn't say that about Fobol/Kinsman1josh (his new name). Its just that he knows (like all good players do) what you have and what he needs to make to beat you and seemingly gets there every time. He scoops a lot of pots and never speaks at the table -- just a stone killer. The only way he is similar to DERB is that he's crushed this game for as long as I've been playing it (about a year or so) and possibly even longer. I consider myself to be one of the best players in that game over that same time period, and I can tell you that my winnings, while solid, do not approach his at all.