[thedustbustr]

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id check raise the flop (or just check call)

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No way. Not after I 4-bet it. Lead/push is the only play IMO.

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someone might have got to it before me but -

if its AA vs KK, the monies are going in no matter what, we know that. The thing is it's so obvious that we have an overpair that we are relying on his ability to stack off with TT+ for our flop shove to be good. which is why if we check, he can say "OMFG AK" and shove which we snap call.

especially if he is solid - and capable of folding QQ on the flop - we can at least try to check it down to the river and "OMG BLUFF W AK" . i think it's the only way we can get any more money in, unless its a cooler for one of us.

why do you disagree?

fwiw, im hardly ever in this situation bc im in the "i almost never fourbet" camp.