[mrbaseball]

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going into baseball for pitching what do you think is the single biggest indicator of a good pitcher, i like to look at WHIP (new school) but i know a lot of odler people like looking at wins but i feel that is being shortsighted

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Actually whip is sorta old school too. I like it though and use as one of my more important indicators. Current theory is that there are 4 things, homeruns, balls in play, strikeouts and walks. Saberminded analysts consider all balls in play equal (debatable) so the sweet spot is high K's and low BB's and homeruns. I use a combination of all of these factors when breaking down a game matchup.