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Old 10-16-2006, 10:23 PM
drzen drzen is offline
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Default Re: MLET Challenge: Labatt Action

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Alright Microers,

let me break this down for you and keep it simple. The main point of discussion here should probably be me defending my SB (which in this blind structure is actually a BB) with J8s.

Simply put, I (correctly) put Bravos on a wide range with his hijack raise and 3 bet J8s light. This was very borderline for me. I took a chance and it worked (hoorah). Thrakkar tells me after the hand that there is a fine line between being a genius and an idiot. Which side of the line do you think I fell on to here?

Bravos says he was suprised that I 3 bet with J8s and that he gaurantees I wouldnt do that in a regular game. This is correct. I would pull not this move against an unknown or even your typical player at 0.5/1 but Bravos is anything but a typical donk because he can actually play a decent game that includes using the fold button. I figured the first few hands might be played standard postflop and that I would get a fair idea of where i was at postflop in this hand. That is, if played back at I would be backing off quickly.

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I have to say I think it sucked. You correctly noted that you're behind to anything like a reasonable range for raiser and you don't offer any justification this side of machismo for reraising.

What does "backing off very quickly" mean, Aussie? Are you folding to a raise on the flop? I'm guessing not but you will have ended up putting in quite a few bets against any ace -- a fair bit of his range, after all -- and bigger jacks -- less likely for him but also in his range. And even if raised, you could well be ahead on this drawy flop so you'll likely be giving a free card on the turn. I think a lot of hands that he might have are raising you here. But what are you doing if you miss? Firing anyway, hoping he missed too? Just c/fing?

Maybe defending your blind by just calling the raise and c/ring anything you hit might have been better with a weakish hand like this? Or just calling and seeing, best of all. I'd like to see a bit more of a justification for reraising. What does it achieve? I often wonder why exactly players are so keen to reraise out of the blinds. Are you trying to confuse raiser into thinking you have a stronger hand than you do? Would that be worth the many bets this strategy will lose you over time? If not that, what?
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