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Old 10-01-2006, 08:09 AM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: I dont know how to play mid pairs

still pretty hungover, so maybe I'll chime in a bit more tomorrow or later today, but

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What does "Personally, I think that rr TT OOP is a fine play as long as you can get to showdown with it a lot, as then you are actually "seeing" the value you gain by rr preflop."
Even mean?

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what that means is that if you see a showdown with TT in a rr pot UI 0% of the time, then it is essentially a bluff. The value of the cards mean nothing (except that you can flop a set 1 in 8 times). Un fact, its not just about getting to sohwdown, we have to get to showdown, UI AND WIN over 0% of the time, or our hand is a bluff.

Now my problem is that whenI rr TT preflop (especially OOP) I get to showdown UI and win just about never. If you are some1 who CAN get to showdown and win UI often, then rr is ofc fine, but thats just not me (and I suspect not a lot of players here either)

FWIW, I'm not playing TT for set value, I'll continue most the time even when it hasnt flopped a set and I'm not just rr JJ+/AK. I'd a lot rather reraise a hand like 67s that has a lot less showdown value.


Hince,

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It's never incorrect to raise with the best hand (ie. it is never -EV)

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Yes, but we don't know his exact range of hands. Obv we are ahead of his range, but just because you are ahead of some1s range, doesn't mean raising is best and in fact if you are only slightly ahead of some1s range, it could be that raising is -EV
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