[Tickner]

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Button opens, you're in the BB, you reraise with XX.
Button will usually fold, okay.
Say he calls, flop is whatever.
You cbet.
Usually he folds, okay, you make money.
But this time he calls.
Turn is whatever.

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You gain a ton of value both preflop and on the flop, just by being agressive.

My gut feeling is that if he calls both a preflop RR and calls the flop, and then you check to him, hes betting a large majority of the time.

RR preflop, bet flop, check turn, isn't a line I ever like, but sometimes we have to check fold the turn. Other times, we just check raise it for value. I dont know exactly why, so this might sound like a dummy post, because this really depends on so many factors that its impossible to just state what the actions of our opponents were and then say "this is what you do and its correct/incorrect".

Hopefully someone else can give a better anwser to that one.

But our hand is NOT = 23o, because our hand actually have value, whereas 23o almost never has any value. This hand is the same as 23o if you never hit showdown, but in a RR'ed pot with a half decent hand, you shouldn't hit showdown 0% or its always a bluff. Accoring to what you are saying, KK here is a bluff too because he might have a set!

I see what you are saying. I play a real laggy style of game, so we might be thinking on two different levels. But TT isn't a bluff here by any means. If anything its a semi-bluff that we arent afraid to showdown occasinally, but in the mean time we will steal the pot preflop and on the flop.

hope my rambling made some sort of sense.