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I guess I was just set off because it seems like a new poster has shown up on the scene and given us some hope.
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Therein (for me) lies the problem. This guy shows up
here and at other forums at the last possible minute acting like he's done so much and been at this for months.
The website domains weren't even registered until mid/late July - Even though they've been planning this for months? Great planning.
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Our original strategic plan was created months before this latest attempt by Frist and was meant for launch later this year. When all this action started we used our own money and resources to get something up quick to try and stop the attempts. Our .org website is still a couple weeks away from getting online and we have several infrastructure issues we need to get done but we are out here and we are trying.
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Uhm how much later this year exactly? After it passed the Senate? Excuse me but all this "action" started a long long time ago. That's when action was needed. That's when people needed to be involved. That's when donations would have been helpful. What good does waiting until the legislation passes the house with flying colors and is already in the Senate when it can be attached to the DoD bill do? This is your strategic plan you've been working on for months? Wait until late September? Well, I guess I could say, sounds like a plan.
And why's the .org site not working? It's hosted on the same machine as the .COM site. What "infrastructure" issues?
BTW NROG in what state was NROG incorporated and when were you issued 501c status and under what name? NROG, Save Online Gaming and National Right for Online Gaming aren't found in the IRS 501c online database.
And FWIW, perhaps not much, but the saveonlinegamine.com and nrog.org sites were both registered by a Jason Bailey @ skyycorp. The skyycorp.com domain was registered by the same @ truemediamarketing.com. Read that again. True Media MARKETING.
Marketing = Sales people. Coincidence that NROG comes here and sells the majority on the idea that they are actually spending all those donations on the things they recommend they be spent on?
As of 30 days ago NROG had exactly 0 donors via Pay Pal.
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The PayPal account wasn't even set up until July 27th! Yet in his original post here he thanked the thousands who had joined and for all the donations. Thousands? Well, they've got 1 poster in their forums so I guess that 1 could represent thousands. Right?
And how is it that someone so invested in online gaming and this legislation had not even heard of 2+2 until a few days ago??
NROG comes here, out of nowhere at the last possible minute when people are in a frenzy, wanting to (finally) actually do something, gives a sales pitch, making it sound like NROG's been working in DC all along. At the same time we now see this at the saveonlinegaming.COM site:
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We will soon be introducing detailed membership rewards. This will include a donation match of up to 100% into particpating partner poker rooms. We expect this rollout in the next two weeks and ALL rewards will be retroactive so donate TODAY. Thank You!
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If you don't know how affiliate agreements work read up on 'em.
We all love NROG - they do so much. They come here and confirm things that seem to come off an RSS feed. They're on our side. Let's give 'em money!! Money for what? Just because they have a strategic plan posted on their website doesn't mean they are actually doing anything (besides spamming forums). In fact it states in the plan that it is their "recommendation." That's it. Just a recommendation.
Apparently implementing the plan will cost 2M. Yet, the nrog.org and saveonlinegaming domains weren't even registered until mid/late July. PayPal wasn't set up until July 27. According to the plan which is supposed to be implemented over the course of 2 months, that would leave (at best) 1.5 months to raise 2M (by Sept. 5th(?) when the Senate reconvened). WTF? You need to raise 2M in 1.5 months but you don't even hear about 2+2 until Sept 20. Great work. Experts you are. Really.
NROG may have the best intentions but it is obvious (to some of us anyway) that they are clueless. At this point, you'd get more for you money if you sent it to any anti-gambling Congressperson's opponent.
PPA may or may not be doing much but what they certainly didn't do is appear out of nowhere at the last possible (too late) minute claiming to be some grassroots/lobbying group with top secret inside contacts who've been at this for months.
For those who buy this on nothing more than some random poster's say so? I got some quads I wanna sell your boat.
NROG comes here, "releases" already reported information and people attribute any success to NROG. What if it were PPA who was first in to "release" said information? Via sales tactics they get people to believe they've actually done something, people love them, people donate money. Simple.
And what's NROG to do with the money at this late date when this thing could very well be law by the end of the week? Use it to fund the donation matching at established poker room accounts? Oh or do I have to be a new account in order to qualify for donation matching?