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Old 09-22-2006, 12:59 PM
Bad Lobster Bad Lobster is offline
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Default Re: how to play LA maniac lucky idiot?

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Hi everyone,

[describes loose-aggressive style...]

One thing I don’t like about tight players is that you can read them like a book. Here is an example...
I hold 72 off, everyone folds to me on the button, I raise 3 times BB, get re-raised by the BB 2.5 times, I call and the flop comes 2 3 7. The BB comes out firing with a slight overbet. What does this tell me??? From the preflop action and now, I know what he is holding – TT, JJ, QQ, KK, or AA, however, his most likely holding is QQ-AA. I know that so far I have him beat, BUT, there are two more cards to come and my two pair can get counterfeited, so, I just call instead of reraising and letting the possible unfortunate turn or river to screw me. The Turn comes 8, and the BB comes firing with a slight overbet again. I call and the river is a 10. The BB checks and I go all-in. I get called and paid off. And then I get to hear – “you are a lucky idiot” how do you play that crap, you are a looser, and ETC.

Has anyone learned a lesson here???

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No...I'm still confused. Here are two questions about this situation;

<ul type="square">[*] How would YOU play this hand against yourself if the situation were reversed...you're the guy holding the big overpair? I see your point, but I don't really see NOT doing the same as this guy did: betting on each round when apparently safe cards come? I guess the question could be rephrased: how big does that all-in move have to be to scare you off your hand?

[*] How big a stack relative to bet sizes do you need for a play like this to be worthwhile in the first place? That crazy raise you started off with pays off so rarely, I'd think you would need for both players to start with about 100x as much as that first bet; otherwise you couldn't make enough on the big plays to cover the cost of the losers.[/list]
I like the idea of playing this way in principle, but when I'm at the casino it doesn't seem to work out too well unless I already have a very big stack. If I buy in for $100 and make a few $15-20 raises, I only have to lose five or six times to eat up my whole stack. Do you always go in planning to make lots of rebuys?
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