Re: The war on faith.
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Nope. I'm claiming ( among a few other things) that once we realize that we are selectively choosing what 'truths' we are getting from the bible, the bible itself is not actually contributing anything.
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I havent realized that. I dont think I am choosing, I think I am struggling to find the truth and failing a lot. Nonetheless, I think I am succeeding some of the time and that is a good thing.
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I'm not asking "how could we know" because the 2 billion personal interpretations out there show that we can't.
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It seems like most of the objections you've made in this thread have focussed on - the bible is valueless because we cant know if we're right or not - no?
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I read a poem, it brings tears to my eyes. My buddy reads it and bursts out laughing. Is the message in the poem or are we creating it?
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I think it has content and I think the two of you are interpreting that content differently. I would think it odd if you were claiming that the poet had no part in the creation of the message.
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I don't buy your story about reaching the xtrian god sansbible. At least I've never heard of the missionaries stumbling into the clearing and the natives were saying hail mary's ( hey, it's an analogy).
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I think the paraphernalia of religion (when to stand up in church, how exactly one should sacrifice a goat, etc etc) is not important. I certainly didnt mean to imply that one could become aware of what is in the bible through personal inspection or somesuch.
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luckyme. ok,ok, I don't know what we're debating ...but you're wrong !! ;-)
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I concede.
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