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Who said God was tolerant?

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Matt R.

He also said that Christianity never advocates violence and all religions have the same ideals.

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Ai... may as well start from the beginning until I get bored.

God is tolerant when the situation warrants tolerance. In terms of Jesus making claims about God punishing the wicked, this means that God does NOT tolerate things such as murder. He will NOT tolerate murder of an innocent, and will thus punish the murderer upon death. He will not tolerate sinful/immoral behavior. He may forgive you, but he won't let you off scot free.

So no, God is not tolerant in some circumstances. However, he is tolerant when the situation warrants it. The "theme", or one of the main ones, of this thread from the beginning was religion being a proponent of violence. I assumed this meant violence without just cause, otherwise this whole thread is retarded. Of course in the proper circumstances violence is warranted, and I think Jesus/God/Christianity/religion in general would probably advocate it if it was necessary.

I assumed when you spoke about Christianity being a religion of violence, you meant they were being violence WITHOUT just cause. If this isn't want you meant, and you were arguing that Christianity advocated violence in certain cirucmstances, well this debate is pointless and this thread is [censored] stupid.

I really don't think Jesus would have advocated letting the Germans exterminate the Jews without a fight simply because fighting back would be "violent".

I also didn't say "all religions have the same ideals". I said that all major religions are correct, more or less. Meaning that when you get right down to it, the fundamental truths they espouse are equivalent. This is somewhat of a guess, as I'm not extremely familiar with every single religion. It is more of a statement of religious tolerance, and the belief that if you correctly apply the logic behind most religions, you will be led to the correct conclusion in any and all situations involving questions of morals. Of course, there are differences in how they go about practicing their religion, and some of their ideals which branch from the "foundation" may vary. But at their core, I believe they all point to some fundamental truth.

And yes, I meant this from the beginning. If you cannot understand how I came to some of my conclusions, you may need to cut/paste the relevant points of this post into my other arguments. Otherwise, I'm sure it will be too much of a logical leap for you and you'll start claiming that I think Judaism and Christianity are exactly the same again.