Re: Partygammon
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Dude, your site is infested by cheaters that use Snowie while they play.
ParyGammon stinks!
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I suspect this from time to time. What makes you say that?
WiteKnite
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I'll repost a trip report I wrote for another forum:
"So I played a bunch of bg [at PartyGammon] at $25-$125/pt. Everyone starts with a beginner rating, so I thought I have a window of opportunity to sandbag, while my rating is going up, and play opponents with a beginner rating, without them fearing me. At first I figured them for amateur gamblers, and a couple of them were. The rest I didn't feel much of an edge against, and it was the same people sitting there every day, playing a fairly strong game, and with a rating that wasn't going anywhere. Oh, the regulars also started declining to play with me.
On any other site, I would've imported all games into Snowie a long time ago and analyzed the games, but on Party it was difficult, because their history format didn't match anything. I finally found a script that converted histories into a recognizable format, and analyzed a bunch of games. The results weren't pretty -- I played fairly strongly, my error rate was 5 mpt/move, better than 5.5-6 that's typical for me. Snowie calls that error rate an "expert level" -- the next one is "world class". My opponents played better [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I am sure there was lots of bot usage on the opponent side and rating dumping, where a strong player loses a bunch of meaningless games to purposefully lower his rating. One opponent didn't make a single meaningful error in 200 moves -- Snowie called him "extraterrestrial", which is what happens only when someone simply uses a bot to make every move. Even the best players in the world will sometimes disagree with Snowie (and will be often right), so in the eyes of the bot the best human players typically have an error rate of ~2mpt/mv. This guy was around 0.2.
To summarize, PartyGammon is full of cheats, at least at high stakes. In the end I didn't make any money, but oh well, I hope to take another shot at it, if they ever pick up a large non-cheating player base."
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