[WichitaDM]

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I will make a statement on the "names" issue tomorrow.

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If you end up giving in to the demands of a small (albeit vocal) group I will be very disappointed. 2+2 is not an acurate representation of the poker world at large. Giving out names in your HH's will ruin your games (and then we'll have to listen to all these people bitch and moan about how bad the games are...*sigh*).

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Yeah, I mean after all, there are no fishy games on sites that support PT and PA Hud. It's awful how tight every table on Party is these days, isn't it? The actual "small (albeit vocal) group" is the anti-HUD people.

Yes, the tables are tighter than they were a few years ago, but this was happening before HUDs became popular. More smart, intellegent people are learning poker for the sole purpose of making money. Instead of changing their game and learning to adapt, people would rather blame outside influences on their results.

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Yes Party is much tighter now than even a year ago and certainly way way way tighter than 2003 or so. Maybe some of you guys werent playing poker pre-hud but the games were soft as hell. My winrate overall has gotten torched by the fact that people are more educated and can play a simple game at 10 tables because of HUD. (from 3bb/100 at 10/20 to about 1.4bb/100 over the last year) Anyone that really thinks HUDs are good for poker is not thinking about this correct.

Sure you make more when you use a HUD versus not, why wouldnt you. But the truth is that the skilled players were making much more especially at limit holdem 3 years ago than now. There are many reasons for that but a large part of that is the fact that HUDs came into existance and are used by many, and the fact that there are people 10 tabling playing 20-15 poker now at every turn when three years ago there werent.

The bottom line is the HUDS are choking poker to a slow but sure death (and this is coming from someone who has been making a lot of money at poker for a long time). If the current trend of multitabling grinders using HUD to play 47 tables continues, many 2+2ers will be out of a job sooner rather than later.

WPEX you are doing the right thing here, i think anyone who has played poker for a long time and remembers what online poker was like years ago wishes we could go back to HUDless poker. Thanks for doing your part to make this happen.