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Old 10-20-2005, 04:40 PM
fartin247 fartin247 is offline
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Default Re: JJ hand, late...

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Maybe I'm missing something, but after a raise and a re-raise all-in, that JJ has officially become garbage.

As if it were much more than garbage before said raise and re-raise.

If you could open the pot, then its got great potential for a double up, but at best you're probably 55/45.

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Uh-hem. You're missing the size of the blinds.

Anyhow, what poses an interesting challenge to me is that the pfr is UTG (which suggests a pretty strong hand, generally) and that he's getting 3.8:1 pot odds to call, and relatively, he has the means to make that kind of call.

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Yeah, I failed to take into account the size of the blinds. Thanks for pointing that out.

Even still, you just got through the blinds, and you've got 2 or 3 more freebies before you're back in. I think you've gotta hope for an A or K in those hands and get yours in first.

Like you, I'm not so much afraid of the all-in reraise as I am of the UTG raise, unless you've got a read on UTG. The best you can hope for in either hand is a lower PP, but you've gotta believe the best you can be against the best of the 2 is 55%.

Does the gap concept not apply in shorthanded/shortstacked play?? I just think pushers are giving JJ way too much credit in this situation.
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