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Phosix, I've heard you say this quite often, and I agree that any good poker player doesn't NEED PT, but really, if you haven't tried it, how do you know it can't add a slight edge?

That being said, I'm going to voice a big PT complaint. After 80 hands, an AF factor of .8 means absolutely NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! In my experience, the only stats that are meaningful after that small of a small are the really huge ones, because they more accurately assess looseness and agressiveness because the player already in 80 hands has had multiple opportunities to do so.

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The stat alone might mean nothing. But with observation it can mean quite a bit more. This is why it takes much less than 80 hands(usually about 20) to, generally, assess most players in a live game. Because you're watching more closely just what hands he's playing and how he's playing it(along with other factors you may not be privy to online).

If I've been sitting with someone for 2 hours(about 80 hands) in a live game, I have a pretty good idea as to how they play.

I do agree with Phosix that too many seem too dependent on PT and miss some key stuff in analyzing a player.

PT, imo, helps make up edge that's lost during multitabling. I'm not so sure it really adds an edge, while playing, if someone is only playing 1 or 2 tables and they know how to profile opponents.

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