[MrMon]

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The general public has no idea that poker is even televised

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I rest my case. LOL

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Then you lose, or else you don't get outside the poker community very often.

LOL all you want ... out of the 100, how many? Come on lawman, respond or say Uncle. How many?

NCAces

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At least 90 people out of 100 know that poker is televised. Now go out on the street and start questioning people to prove to yourself something that anyone with an IQ over 100 already knows. LOL LOL LOL

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We need to wrap up this thread jack,and I think we both lost sight of what the original discussion was about:

Someone said: "Sure, you're a douche, and hated by a lot of people," (referring to Gold)

I responded with a FYP: "Sure, you're a douche, and hated by a lot of nerdy poker geeks on 2+2 who are so small a number it doesn't mean a thing to you,"

And added: "the idea that anyone outside a small, small, miniscule number of 2p2rs even have an opinion, let alone hate, is idiotic."

You resonded: "You don't think that professional poker players, and the public in general, would have a negative opinion of a guy who doesn't pay people the money that he owes them? ... What's idiotic is to think that nobody besides people in this forum would care about a world champion who tries to screw people that he owes money to."

I read this and think to myself, I don't think the public in general knows who the world champion is, let alone cares about what he has done or hasn't done.

I responded: "The general public has no idea that poker is even televised, has no idea there is a WSOP, and could absolutely care less about what the poker champion does or does not do. The extent to which people on this forum exaggerate the level of the general public's knowledge of, or interest in, televised poker is astonishing."

I will agree that the general pulic does know that poker is televised. Not 90% as you believe, but enough to state that I overstated that part of my point. However, I stand by my statement that the general public could care less about what the poker champion does or does not do.

To that end, I stated, "If I did a "man on the street" survey and asked, "who is the 2006 WSOP Main Event champion?" I'd be lucky if 1 out of 100 people could give me the answer. Even after the FT airs, I will be lucky to get 1 out 100." After all, they have to know that there is a 2006 ME Champ and who he is to care, yes?

You've not responded to my man-on-the-street question.

So, my final position is: (1) alot of people don't hate Jamie Gold, (2) the general public doesn't know who Jamie Gold is, nor do they care what he may have done with regard to sharing his winnnings, and (3) anyone here at 2p2 who says the general public would care about this is projecting their love and involvement of the game and poker community well beyond its respresentation within the general public.

You may disagree and that is fine. I am done with the dicussion and moving along.

To all, sorry about the threadjack.

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Although you seem to have been making fun of my post, I tend to agree with you, with a few exceptions. If this whole thing plays out like I think it will, that Gold is angling to save a few million off his deal, he will be hated by a lot of people, but even more won't care. A lot more. He'll have more than enough to play anywhere and anytime he wants, it's not like everyone will get up from the table whenever he sits down. He won't be barred from casinos, he'll just be ill thought of by some in the know. He's from Hollywood, Land of The Broken Deal, do you really think he cares? The only downside to shaving money off his original deal is some possible downside on endorsements, and are those really going to add up to millions less? Depending on his personal goals, which apparently don't include being Poker Ambassador To The World, this seems like a smart move on his part at relatively low financial cost. Slimy, yes, but smart move too.